"Талисманы могут быть только лишь магическими. Не существует ни редких, ни уникальных, ни ремесленных типов. "
Фраза взята мной с сайта http://www.diablo.ru/diablo2exp/items/0706.shtml


В тот же день друг показывает мне героя у которого в кармане лежит ЖЕЛТАЯ Small Charm - Corruption Rift
+7 to All skill level
100% better chance of get magic item

При этом мой друг клянется что добыт сей предмет совершенно законным (не читерским) путем, т.е. выбит из какого-то монстра.

Теперь собственно вопрос: кто кого дурачит?

With best regards, Pedro

Pedro

Можешь своему так называемому "другу" с чистой совестью надавать по лицу.
Это уже не раз и не два обсуждалось - 100% чит.
Либо крайне небольшая вероятность того что он играл в какой то особо извращенный мод, но это крайне сомнительно.

Резюме - внуши "другу", что врать нехорошо

Pedro В общем-то ни кто и ни кого. Официально в игре, созданной компанией Близзард, таких чармов не было - только магические, сиречь синие. Собственно на закрытом сервере баттл-нета ты такого чарма не найдёшь. Однако игра имеет множетсво модификаций, сделанных фанатами да и просто талантливыми людьми. Модификации (МОДы) бывают разные - где-то Дьябло по первому акту бродит, где-то монстров добавили, где-то оружие, где-то ещё чего. В общем твой друг скорее всего играет под таким модом, возможно тот же Evil. Соответственно играя в нём можно совершенно честным путём выбить такой чарм из монстра, так что ни какого криминала нет. Просто посоветуй ему на будущее уточнять в какую версию Дьябло он играет, оригинальную или модифицированную. Удачи.

Pain

Уточняю - Вортекс (создатель Эвила) всё же не настолько на голову хромой, чтобы подобные чармы вводить в игру
Максимум что было (до версии 3.02u включительно) - Jewel of Gods, даваший, насколько я помню, +1 на все скиллы и сколько-то на МФ и ресисты, кажется ещё на что-то по мелочам.
Но чтобы ТАКОЕ...

p.s. Рарные чармы в Эвиле действительно бывают, по крайней мере были. Но у них стандартные аффиксы, куда не входят +x to All skills.

Delvin Точно, я перепутал жёлтый чарм с золотым джевелом . Склероз. Ок, значит не Евил, но может ещё какой мод. В общем, Pedro, вердикт такой: спроси у него, ставил ли он какие-нибудь моды. Если да - то всё нормально, это эффект от установки мода, а если нет - ну тогда проводи разъяснительную работу, таких чармов в оригинальгой игре не бывает.

А я в клубе такой видел, там они все обмениваются вещами, так что у админа пол-инвентаря в этих чармах то-то я удивлялся, что его ассасин меня с одной ловушки валил

Pain

Абсолютно точно известно что после установки с дика никакие моды не ставились,
НО игра скорее всего не лицензионная и установить кем украдена сейчас не представляется возможным

With best regards, Pedro

Pedro

Лицензионная или нет - это не столь существенно, поскольку, раз точно известно что моды НЕ ставились - то можно однозначно утверждать, что так называемый "друг" - врун и поганый читер.

Такие чармы раньше сотнями в инете валялись помню ещё со времён FSGS.
100% чит сделанный джамеллой. Я в те времена у китайцев и не такие видел
А друг твой, впрочем об этом уже сказали.

Изменено: KilDemon, 13-09-2002 в 22:35

+7 к скилам это даже для обычной шмотки слишком много... Максимум, что у меня попадалось - это шлем для барба +3 к скилам и за 300 дефенс.

Вот доступные Magic врианты Чармов (Charms)


------------------------ SMALL CHARMS ------------------------------
There are no Rare, Set, Crafted, or Unique Charms.
В скобках (требуемый уровень)

For more information about these abilities see General Magic Prefixes and General Magic Suffixes.

Magic Prefixes Available On -> (level)

Stout +1-8 Defense Small Charms(1)[1](15)[4-8]
Burly +15-20 Defense Small Charms(28)
Stalwart +20-30 Defense Small Charms(40)
Red +1 To Minimum Damage Small Charms(90)
Jagged +1 To Maximum Damage Small Charms(90)
Rugged +4-16 Max Stamina Small Charms(1)[4-8](15)[9-16]
Bronze +2-12 To Attack Rating Small Charms(1)[2-4](15)[6-12]
Iron +13-24 To Attack Rating Small Charms(31)
Steel +25-36 To Attack Rating Small Charms(49)
Fine +10-20 To Attack Rating, +1-3 To Maximum Damage Small Charms(21)
Lizard's +1-7 Mana Small Charms(12)
Snake's +8-12 Mana Small Charms(24)
Serpent's +13-17 Mana Small Charms(40)
Shimmering All Resistances +3-5% Small Charms(25)
Azure Resist Cold +3-5% Small Charms(1)
Lapis Resist Cold +6-7% Small Charms(10)
Cobalt Resist Cold +8-9% Small Charms(20)
Sapphire Resist Cold +10-11% Small Charms(32)
Russet Resist Fire +3-5% Small Charms(1)
Garnet Resist Fire +6-7% Small Charms(10)
Ruby Resist Fire +8-9% Small Charms(20)
Crimson Resist Fire +10-11% Small Charms(32)
Tangerine Resist Lightning +3-5% Small Charms(1)
Ocher Resist Lightning +6-7% Small Charms(10)
Coral Resist Lightning +8-9% Small Charms(20)
Amber Resist Lightning +10-11% Small Charms(32)
Beryl Resist Poison +3-5% Small Charms(1)
Viridian Resist Poison +6-7% Small Charms(10)
Jade Resist Poison +8-9% Small Charms(20)
Emerald Resist Poison +10-11% Small Charms(32)
Snowflake +1-2 Minimum and +2-4 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(27)
Shivering +3-4 Minimum and +5-8 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(42)
Boreal +5-7 Minimum and +9-14 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(66)
Hibernal +8-10 Minimum and +15-20 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(99)
Ember +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(21)
Smoldering +2-3 Minimum and +4-10 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(40)
Smoking +4-9 Minimum and +11-19 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(64)
Flaming +10-19 Minimum and +20-29 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(89)
Static +1 Minimum and +6-11 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(23)
Glowing +1 Minimum and +12-24 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(41)
Arcing +1 Minimum and +25-43 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(65)
Shocking +1 Minimum and +44-71 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(90)
Septic +6 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(18)
Foul +9 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(39)
Toxic +18 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(63)
Pestilent +24 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(88)

Magic Suffixes

Craftsmanship +1 To Maximum Damage Small Charms(85)
Balance 5% Fast Hit Recovery Small Charms(29)
Greed 5-10% More Gold Small Charms(15)
Fortune 3-5% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items Small Charms(18)
Good Luck 6-7% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items Small Charms(33)
Life +5-10 Life Small Charms(14)
Substinence +11-15 Life Small Charms(17)
Vita +16-20 Life Small Charms(39)
Strength +1-2 To Strength Small Charms(5)[1](16)[2]
Inertia 5% Faster Run/Walk Small Charms(36)
Blight +3 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(9)
Venom +6 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(20)
Pestilence +8 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Small Charms(32)
Anthrax +50 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds Small Charms(44)
Frost +1 Minimum and +2 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(14)
Icicle +2 Minimum and +3-4 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(21)
Glacier +3 Minimum and +5-6 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(33)
Winter +4-5 Minimum and +7-9 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Small Charms(46)
Flame +1 Minimum and +2 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(11)
Fire +2 Minimum and +3-4 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(20)
Burning +3-4 Minimum and +5-8 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(32)
Incineration +5-7 Minimum and +9-13 Maximum Fire Damage Small Charms(45)
Shock +1 Minimum and +3-6 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(12)
Lightning +1 Minimum and +7-10 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(21)
Thunder +1 Minimum and +11-18 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(33)
Storms +1 Minimum and +19-28 Maximum Lightning Damage Small Charms(45)

------------------------ MEDIEM CHARMS ---------------------------------

There are no Rare, Set, Crafted, or Unique Charms.
For more information about these abilities see General Magic Prefixes and General Magic Suffixes.

Magic Prefixes Available On -> (level)

Stout +2-12 Defense Medium Charms(1)[2-3](14)[4-6](20)[8-12]
Burly +13-30 Defense Medium Charms(26)[13-18](32)[20-30]
Stalwart +30-60 Defense Medium Charms(38)[30-40](45)[45-60]
Red +1 To Minimum Damage Medium Charms(30)
Sanguinary +2 To Minimum Damage Medium Charms(60)
Jagged +1 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(33)
Forked +2 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(52)
Rugged +8-32 Maximum Stamina Medium Charms(1)[8-16](7)[17-25](21)[26-32]
Bronze +4-25 To Attack Rating Medium Charms(1)[4-8](7)[6-12](16)[13-25]
Iron +39-51 To Attack Rating Medium Charms(25)[26-38](34)[39-51]
Steel +52-64 To Attack Rating Medium Charms(43)[52-64](52)[65-77]
Fine +10-20 To Attack Rating +1-3 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(19)
Sharp +21-48 To Attack Rating +4-6 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(28)
Lucky 1-6% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items Medium Charms(34)[1](53)[2-3](51)[4-6]
Lizard's +2-12 Mana Medium Charms(1)[2-4](9)[5-7](17)[8-12]
Snake's +13-23 Mana Medium Charms(23)[13-18](33)[19-23]
Serpent's +24-34 Mana Medium Charms(41)[24-29](49)[30-34]
Shimmering All Resistances +3-8% Medium Charms(17)[3-5](34)[6-8]
Azure Cold Resist +4-7% Medium Charms(1)
Lapis Cold Resist +8-10% Medium Charms(16)
Cobalt Cold Resist +11-12% Medium Charms(25)
Sapphire Cold Resist +13-15% Medium Charms(35)
Crimson Fire Resist +4-7% Medium Charms(1)
Russet Fire Resist +8-10% Medium Charms(16)
Garnet Fire Resist +11-12% Medium Charms(25)
Ruby Fire Resist +13-15% Medium Charms(35)
Tangerine Lightning Resist +4-7% Medium Charms(1)
Ocher Lightning Resist +8-10% Medium Charms(16)
Coral Lightning Resist +11-12% Medium Charms(25)
Amber Lightning Resist +13-15% Medium Charms(35)
Beryl Poison Resist +4-7% Medium Charms(1)
Viridian Poison Resist +8-10% Medium Charms(16)
Jade Poison Resist +11-12% Medium Charms(25)
Emerald Poison Resist +13-15% Medium Charms(35)
Septic +3 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(9)
Envenomed +9 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(26)
Toxic +18 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(46)
Pestilent +36 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(66)
Snowflake +2-3 Minimum and +3-5 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(18)
Shivering +4-5 Minimum and +6-10 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(29)
Boreal +6-10 Minimum and +11-20 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(49)
Hibernal +11-15 Minimum and +21-30 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(69)
Ember +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(13)
Smoldering +2-3 Minimum and +4-12 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(27)
Smoking +4-9 Minimum and +13-27 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(47)
Flaming +10-27 Minimum and +28-43 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(67)
Static +1 Minimum and +5-9 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(14)
Glowing +1 Minimum and +10-26 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(28)
Arcing +1 Minimum and +27-58 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(48)
Shocking +1 Minimum and +59-90 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(68)

Magic Suffixes

Craftsmanship +1 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(26)
Quality +2 To Maximum Damage Medium Charms(56)
Dexterity +2-5 To Dexterity Medium Charms(3)[2-3](18)[4-5]
Balance 8% Faster Hit Recovery Medium Charms(19)
Greed +5-22% Extra Gold From Monsters Medium Charms(1)[5-10](20)[11-22]
Life +6-15 Life Medium Charms(1)[6-10](12)[11-15]
Substinence +16-25 Life Medium Charms(26)[16-20](42)[21-25]
Vita +26-35 Life Medium Charms(58)[26-30](74)[31-35]
Strength +2-5 Strength Medium Charms(3)[2-3](18)[4-5]
Inertia 5% Faster Run/Walk Medium Charms(24)
Blight +3 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(5)
Venom +6 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(13)
Pestilence +9 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(23)
Anthrax +12 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Medium Charms(33)
Frost +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(9)
Icicle +2 Minimum and +4-5 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(15)
Glacier +3 Minimum and +6-8 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(25)
Winter +4-6 Minimum and +9-12 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Medium Charms(35)
Flame +1 Minimum and +2 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(7)
Fire +2 Minimum and +3-5 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(14)
Burning +3-5 Minimum and +6-11 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(24)
Incineration +6-10 Minimum and +12-17 Maximum Fire Damage Medium Charms(34)
Shock +1 Minimum and +3-5 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(7)
Lightning +1 Minimum and +6-13 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(14)
Thunder +1 Minimum and +14-25 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(24)
Storms +1 Minimum and +26-38 Maximum Lightning Damage Medium Charms(34)

--------------------- LARGE CHARMS ----------------------------

There are no Rare, Set, Crafted, or Unique Charms.
For more information about these abilities see General Magic Prefixes and General Magic Suffixes.

Magic Prefixes Available On -> (Level)

Stout +3-12 Defense Large Charms(1)[3-5](7)[6-9](12)[10-12]
Burly +13-30 Defense Large Charms(17)[13-15](22)[16-22](27)[23-30]
Stalwart +33-100 Defense Large Charms(32)[33-40](37)[44-50](42)[60-100]
Red +1 To Minimum Damage Large Charms(15)
Sanguinary +2 To Minimum Damage Large Charms(45)
Bloody +3 To Minimum Damage Large Charms(75)
Jagged +1 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(7)
Forked +2 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(37)
Serrated +3 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(67)
Rugged +12-50 Maximum Stamina Large Charms(1)[12-24](7)[25-36](21)[37-50]
Bronze +6-42 To Attack Rating Large Charms(1)[6-12](7)[13-27](13)[28-42]
Iron +43-87 To Attack Rating Large Charms(19)[43-57](25)[58-72](31)[73-87]
Steel +88-132 To Attack Rating Large Charms(37)[88-102](43)[103-117](49)[118-132]
Fine +10-48 To Attack Rating +1-6 Maximum Damage Large Charms(15)[10-20/1-3](22)[21-48/4-6]
Sharp +49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage Large Charms(29)
Lucky +1-12% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items Large Charms(21)[1-4](38)[5-7](55)[8-12]
Lizard's +3-20 Mana Large Charms(1)[3-7](7)[8-13](13)[14-20]
Snake's +21-39 Mana Large Charms(19)[21-26](25)[27-33](31)[34-39]
Serpent's +40-59 Mana Large Charms(37)[40-46](43)[47-52](49)[53-59]
Shimmering All Resistances +3-15% Large Charms(8)[3-6](14)[8-12](35)[13-15]
Azure Resist Cold +7-15% Large Charms(1)
Lapis Resist Cold +16-20% Large Charms(10)
Cobalt Resist Cold +21-25% Large Charms(20)
Sapphire Resist Cold +26-30% Large Charms(30)
Crimson Resist Fire +7-15% Large Charms(1)
Russet Resist Fire +16-20% Large Charms(10)
Garnet Resist Fire +21-25% Large Charms(20)
Ruby Resist Fire +26-30% Large Charms(30)
Tangerine Resist Lightning +7-15% Large Charms(1)
Ocher Resist Lightning +16-20% Large Charms(10)
Coral Resist Lightning +21-25% Large Charms(20)
Amber Resist Lightning +26-30% Large Charms(30)
Beryl Resist Poison +7-15% Large Charms(1)
Viridian Resist Poison +16-20% Large Charms(10)
Jade Resist Poison +21-25% Large Charms(20)
Emerald Resist Poison +26-30% Large Charms(30)
Fletcher's +1 Amazon Bow and Crossbow Skills Large Charms(50)
Acrobat's +1 Amazon Passive Skills Large Charms(50)
Harpoonist's +1 Amazon Javelin and Spear Skills Large Charms(50)
Burning +1 Sorceress Fire Skills Large Charms(50)
Sparking +1 Sorceress Lightning Skills Large Charms(50)
Chilling +1 Sorceress Cold Skills Large Charms(50)
Hexing +1 Necromancer Curses Large Charms(50)
Fungal +1 Necromancer Poison and Bone Spells Large Charms(50)
Graverobber's +1 Necromancer Summoning Spells Large Charms(50)
Lion Branded +1 Paladin Combat Skills Large Charms(50)
Captain's +1 Paladin Offensive Auras Large Charms(50)
Preserver's +1 Paladin Defensive Auras Large Charms(50)
Sounding +1 Barbarian Combat Skills Large Charms(50)
Fanatic +1 Barbarian Combat Masteries Large Charms(50)
Expert's +1 Barbarian Warcries Large Charms(50)
Trainer's +1 Druid Summoning Large Charms(50)
Spiritual +1 Druid Shapeshifting Large Charms(50)
Nature's +1 Druid Elemental Large Charms(50)
Entrapping +1 Assassin Traps Large Charms(50)
Mentalist's +1 Assassin Shadow Disciplines Large Charms(50)
Shogukusha's +1 Assassin Martial Arts Large Charms(50)
Septic +8 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(1)
Foul +15 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(12)
Toxic +39 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(27)
Pestilent +68 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(42)
Snowy +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(9)
Shivering +2-4 Minimum and +4-8 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(15)
Boreal +5-7 Minimum and +9-15 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(30)
Hibernal +8-13 Minimum and +16-25 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(45)
Ember +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(5)
Smoldering +2-3 Minimum and +4-7 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(15)
Smoking +4-7 Minimum and +8-19 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(28)
Flaming +8-18 Minimum and +20-36 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(43)
Static +1 Minimum and +4-5 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(7)
Glowing +1 Minimum and +6-17 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(14)
Arcing +1 Minimum and +18-44 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(29)
Shocking +1 Minimum and +45-79 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(44)

Magic Suffixes

Craftsmanship +1 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(85)
Quality +2 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(41)
Maiming +3-4 To Maximum Damage Large Charms(71)
Dexterity +3-6 To Dexterity Large Charms(1)[3-4](14)[5-6]
Balance 12% Faster Hit Recovery Large Charms(1)
Greed 10-40% Extra Gold From Monsters Large Charms(1)[10-20](7)[21-30](19)[31-40]
Life +5-20 Life Large Charms(1)[5-10](9)[11-15](19)[16-20]
Sustenance +21-35 Life Large Charms(31)[21-25](45)[26-30](61)[31-35]
Vita +36-50 Life Large Charms(77)[36-40](91)[41-45](110)[46-50]
Strength +3-6 To Strength Large Charms(1)[3-4](14)[5-6]
Inertia 7% Faster Run/Walk Large Charms(19)
Blight +2-7 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(1)
Venom +3-9 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(6)
Pestilence +6-14 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(14)
Anthrax +13-25 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds Large Charms(21)
Frost +1 Minimum and +2 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(5)
Icicle +2 Minimum and +3-4 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(8)
Glacier +3 Minimum and +5-7 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(15)
Winter +4-6 Minimum and +8-11 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second Duration Large Charms(23)
Flame +1 Minimum and +2 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(3)
Fire +1-2 Minimum and +3 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(8)
Burning +2-3 Minimum and +4-7 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(14)
Incineration +4-7 Minimum and +8-14 Maximum Fire Damage Large Charms(22)
Shock +1 Minimum and +2-3 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(4)
Lightning +1 Minimum and +4-7 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(7)
Thunder +1 Minimum and +8-21 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(15)
Storms +1 Minimum and +22-33 Maximum Lightning Damage Large Charms(22)

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